He is Risen – 5.1.1: A Strange, but Powerful Argument for God, ft. Aquinas, Aristotle, prod. Dr. Feser (1/2)

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I debated whether to include this here since it’s marginally off-topic, but considering 5.2.1, I thought it made sense to lay the foundation of the reasoning here before I got there. Here, I present a summarised form of Dr. Ed Feser’s “Thomistic Proof” for God’s existence, aiming to show why everything, right here, right now, ultimately depends on God for its existence.

It’s not my favourite proof, but I think it has its merits and ultimately does the trick. For a better and more in-depth analysis of the argument – you’ll want to go to Chapter 4. The Thomistic Proof – Five Proofs of the Existence of God (Ed Feser).

also im kinda tired of saying i have good arguments for God but not actually showing them :/

Warning: It’s quite technical, but I like to view metaphysics like mathematics. It’s hard, but the merits of some metaphysical investigations can heavily outweigh the costs.


A brief note – I’ll often use the words ‘essence’, ‘definition’ and ‘nature’ interchangeably. More often than not they can be used as such, but if there’s a need to use one specifically then I’ll say so.

Stage 1: Analysing Stuff

We experience stuff in reality, which really is stuff. We know that things such as trees, stones, and other humans really exist as things outside of our minds, and we know what they are – i.e., their “essence”. For example, a brief Google search defines a tree as “a perennial woody plant having a main trunk and usually a distinct crown”. Now, whether you agree with this exact definition isn’t the main point. The main point is that certain things have certain characteristics that distinguish themselves from others, such that we know one thing from another.

However, we also know that merely knowing what something is, doesn’t mean we also know that it is – i.e., that it exists. It’s not in the definition of a tree for it to also exist – they aren’t necessary. Therefore, we can say:

  1. For any of the things we know from experience (stones, trees, etc.) there is a distinction to be drawn between its essence and its existence.

But what type of distinction is it? For example, the morning star and the evening star (the planet Venus) are the same thing outside of the mind, or extramentally. Those two names refer to the same real thing. However, merely by using different words to refer to it, we must be distinguishing between something, right? Otherwise, we wouldn’t notice a difference between the two phrases. This kind of distinction can be called a logical distinction, where the phrases refer to the same thing in reality, but the only distinction is mind-dependent, or intramental.

Is the essence-existence distinction also a logical distinction? No, for reasons stated earlier. Merely knowing what a thing is (its essence, or nature) doesn’t mean you know that it also exists. This type of distinction can be called a real distinction, where there is an extramental distinction. We can say:

  1. If this were not a real distinction (a distinction in extramental reality) we could know whether a thing exists simply by knowing its essence.
  2. But we cannot know whether or not a thing exists by knowing its essence.

Repeating what I said earlier – we know that if something’s essence and existence were the same thing in reality, then it would exist necessarily. It would be literally in its definition (or essence) for it to exist:

  1. If it were not a real distinction, then the things we know from experience would exist in a necessary way rather than a merely contingent (non-necessary) way.
  2. But in fact they exist in a merely contingent way and not in a necessary way.

Another reason as to why there must be a real distinction between something’s essence and its existence (at least for each of the things we know through experience) would be that if this were not the case, then there cannot be in principle more than one such thing.

Here’s why:

Remember how the morning star and the evening star (in not being really distinct) refer to the same thing in reality? The same would go for essence and existence. If they are not really distinct, then that something’s essence literally is its existence.

Now, let’s say there are two such things, A and B, where this is the case. How would you differentiate them? You might say A has the essence of [whatever A is], and it exists, while B has the essence of [whatever B is], and it also exists. However, remember that in this case, the essence and existence would have to be the same thing, and so the essence (or definition) of A, is simply that it exists. The same thing goes B, but notice that there’s no longer anything left to differentiate the two of them, and so they’re actually just identical!

So, if there exists something that has its essence identical to its existence, there can only be one such thing:

  1. If there could be more than one thing the essence of which is identical to its existence, then two or more such things would be distinguishable in the way that species of the same genus are distinguished, or members of the same species are distinguished.[1]
  2. But they cannot be distinguished in any of these ways
  3. So, there could not, in principle, be more than one thing the essence of which is identical to its existence.

And, just for formality, we’ll restate the things we’ve already considered more clearly.

  1. So, for any of the things we know from experience, if the distinction between its essence and existence were not a real distinction, then there could not be, in principle, more than one of them.
  2. But for each of the things we know from experience, there is, or could be more than one of them.
  3. So, for each of the things we know from experience, the distinction between its essence and existence is a real distinction.

Before we continue, it might be good to clarify one (rather crucial) thing. Just because two things are really distinct from one another, doesn’t mean that they can be separated.

One such example might be a circle’s radius and its circumference – these two things are not the same thing (since C = 2πr), however (quite obviously) you can’t have one without having the other – they’re quite literally dependent on each other.

Following on from that, in extramental reality, there’s no such thing as something’s essence existing apart from its existence – that doesn’t really make any sense whatsoever. You can’t separate the essence of a stone or human from its existence, right?

But if this is the case – how do things “get” their existence? We’ve concluded, quite obviously, that the things of our experience do not exist necessarily – but how is it that something’s essence is combined with its existence?

One possible answer is a brute assertion – just like with a circle’s radius and its circumference, the things of our experience are simply inseparable and are simply never apart.

The problem is, this doesn’t really answer the question, because it’s natural to just ask why it is the case that these things aren’t separable. In the case of a circle, its radius and circumference are mathematically related, but that doesn’t seem to be the case for a stone, does it?

We can also note that the things of our experience cannot impart, or give, existence to themselves. In that case, they would have to already exist – but we’ve already noted that things that have their existence really distinct from their essence can’t give existence to anything unless they already exist. They would have to exist before it exists, and I think it’s quite clear that such a possibility isn’t coherent – nothing can be the cause of its own existence. Let’s write this more clearly:

  1. For anything the essence of which is really distinct from its existence, the existence must be imparted to it either by itself or by some cause distinct from it.
  2. But if it imparted existence to itself, it would be the cause of itself.
  3. Nothing can be the cause of itself.
  4. So, it cannot impart existence to itself.

Therefore, for anything in which there is a real distinction between its essence and its existence, its cause of existence must be from outside of it – let’s call this thing being caused, thing A. One thing to note though, is that whatever causes this thing to exist, let’s call it, the causer, thing B, mustn’t just exist before thing A comes into existence, it has to exist while thing A is in existence. We’ve already determined that thing A cannot cause its own existence, so at any point in time that something exists – i.e., here and now, thing A must have a cause of its existence (B) which isn’t thing A but is imparting existence to A’s essence.

The same thing might be said for B, its cause at a given time, or simultaneous cause, might be C, and so on. Let’s pause and write this more formally first:

  1. So, for anything the essence of which is really distinct from its existence, the existence must be imparted to it by some cause distinct from it.
  2. Since its essence and existence remain really distinct at every moment at which it exists, including here and now, its existence must be imparted to it by some cause distinct from it at every moment at which it exists, including here and now.
  3. So, for each of the things we know from experience, its existence must be imparted to it by some cause distinct from it at every moment at which it exists, including here and now.

But can this series go on forever – no, I don’t think this so, and here’s why. I think we can distinguish between two types of causal series.

  1. A per accidens series – this would be a series in which each member is not simultaneously dependent on a previous member’s existence at a given time for its causal power. One such example might be a family tree – if your great-great-grandparent passes away, it doesn’t remove your ability to reproduce.
    • Interestingly enough, the original proponent of this argument (St. Thomas Aquinas) thought that time might be a per accidens series – so he probably wasn’t very convinced by the popular Kalam Cosmological argument.
  2. A per se series – this would be a series in which each member is simultaneously dependent on a previous member’s existence for its causal power. An analogy might be a coat which is hung on a hanger, which is hung on a rack etc. If any member of this structure is not supported by another structure (i.e., a foundation or something), the structure as a whole is not supported.

I think, and with good reason, that existence is a per se series. If at any given moment, something of our experience is not supported, or concurrently caused by another thing, then we can easily start to wonder why, or how, the series as a whole actually exists.

Now, the reason that a per se series cannot continue infinitely is based on pretty much what I just said. It doesn’t matter how many more “supporters” you add to make the coat hang – if there is nothing that supports the whole structure at a given time (whether it’s some magnetic force or whatever), it falls. The per se series, therefore, must end with a primary cause, something uncaused.

We’ve already noted that whatever this thing is, its essence cannot be really distinct from its existence (as therefore it would not be primary and would itself require a concurrent cause) and so its essence must be really identical with its existence or, as more fancily said by St. Thomas Aquinas, subsistent existence itself.

Essentially, right here and now, all the things of our experience, with a real distinction between their essence and existence can trace their existence back to this cause, and this cause…is God. The next post will show why we can make that leap, but just to clarify:

  1. Either this cause is itself something the essence of which is distinct from its existence, or it is something whose essence and existence are identical (something that just is subsistent existence itself)
  2. If this cause is something the essence of which is distinct from its existence, then its own existence too must be imparted to it by some cause distinct from it at every moment at which it exists including here and now.
  3. The causal series this would generate would be a hierarchical (per se) one, which cannot regress infinitely, but must have a first member.
  4. The first member could only be something whose essence and existence are identical, something that just is subsistent existence itself.
  5. So, either directly or indirectly, each of the things we know from experience has its existence imparted to it at every moment at which it exists, including here and now, by some cause whose essence and existence are identical, something that just is subsistent existence itself.

That’s part 1, part 2 should show us how to get to something like the classical conception of God.


1. To fully understand this fancy terminology, and for a more in-depth analysis of why this is the case you’ll want to check out Ed Feser’s explanation on pages 108-110 of his book. I’m trying to keep the word count minimal here 😊. I think the unemboldened part of the premise is decently justified based on what I’ve already said.


11 responses to “He is Risen – 5.1.1: A Strange, but Powerful Argument for God, ft. Aquinas, Aristotle, prod. Dr. Feser (1/2)”

  1. It’s not an argument, it’s a baseless assertion. No “essence” can be shown to exist, and no god can be shown to exist. The premises are nothing more than baseless presuppositions so any conclusion is also nonsense.

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    • I’m confused – I’ve only presented half of the argument, or was I unclear in my writing?

      As for essences being “shown to exist” – the argument presents them as being discoverable, or even relied on for rational thought. I’m not sure what you mean here – what would you require for being “shown”, but I think denying essences puts you in a much more precarious position. What would be required for an essence to be “shown” to exist? Is deductive argumentation not enough?

      You seem to be critiquing me for using “baseless presuppositions”, but I’ve laid out premises and the reasoning behind them, so I’m not sure of the issue here. Might it not be better to wait for part 2 to see the rest of the argument fleshed out in detail?

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      • Your premises are the baseless presuppositions that’s why any syllogism with them ends up with a useless conclusion. All you have is “if essence exist”, which you cannot show as true. Since you can’t show the premise is true, then your conclusion can’t be shown true either.

        There is another problem in that christians invent different versions of their god. You each assume yours is the right one, and again, not one of you can support that claim. You assume an “essence” for something you can’t even show exists.

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      • I think some people argue for essentialism, and you can probably find literature on it, but I think the burden of proof lies on those arguing against it – I think it’s something that is almost self-evident, so I’m not seeing the “baselessness”. I gave reasons for essences being reasonable, if not necessary. They are analogous to blueprints for common ideas, or concepts. As a matter of fact, this conversation (I would argue) depends on the existence of them. For us to converse, we have to believe (or presuppose) that the words we are using refer to the same common idea. We have to assume that we are referring to the same “thing” when we refer to “premises” so I’m not sure how they can be coherently denied. An essence is analogous to a “definition” of something, would you deny that these are real? If so, why, and how?

        That second paragraph doesn’t really say much if the argument isn’t finished, no?

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      • The burden of proof is always on the one making the positive claim. If you claim essences exist, then it is up to you to show that is true. Just like it would be up to me to show a dragon exists in my garage if I claimed that was the truth.

        Nothing about your baseless claim is “self-evident”. Many religions/cults claim that their god is “self-evident” and not one can show that they exist. There is no need for a “blueprint” when the actual thing exists. All you have is a poor version of Plato’s ideals.

        We already know that words don’t always mean the same things to everyone. However, we also konw that most words have commonly accepted definitions. No need for your essences at all.

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      • The first point about the burden of proof is true enough. However, if you think essentialism reduces to Plato’s ideals that would be wrong. The view I’m going for is a moderate realist position, not Plato’s extreme version, which claims that such ideals exist in some third “perfect” world. This moderate version also doesn’t suffer from the third man argument.
        Regarding your point about the “actual thing exists”, I think you implicitly need to accept some form of essentialism to make this point. I don’t think you can coherently convey that we are both referring to an “actual thing” existing, when you don’t also affirm the existence of essences. How can you really say such a thing actually exists, if such thing doesn’t really have an essence or definition in its being that would be linked to what you’re using to describe it? It seems that you would end up going down the path of saying that we have words that describe things in reality, but these words in no way relate to the things they describe if I understand you correctly.
        Referring to your third paragraph, words are used to express ideas. What I’m roughly conveying is that these ideas also exist in the things we perceive in reality. If not, then surely you are left with skepticism in that the words we use and thus the ideas they refer to in no way describe reality? Which would mean (arguably) that we can’t even understand or properly speak about reality, which I think is absurd. I think that essences are actually just presupposed in rational conversation about reality.
        Maybe self-evident wasn’t clear. I meant to convey that essentialism is effectively presupposed in discourse, and thus doesn’t require strong argumentation.

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      • So why did you claim that the burden of proof was not on you?

        Essentialism does reduce to plato’s ideals. But do show I’m wrong. You simply want to avoid the problems with that so you try to back off on the concept. The moderate version fails since you again can’t show that “essence” even exists.

        Why would I *need* to accept your baseless claims? An actual thing is not some nonsense separate from its “essence”, an idea you cant’ even show is true. A definition is just a description of a thing. It doesn’t exist unless the thing exists. You postulate that somehow the thing and the description are separate and you have yet to support that claim.

        Yep, words are used to express ideas. That doesn’t mean the ideas are correct. Ideas come from things. They are not magically floating around on their own. Unsurprisngly, we can and do understand and speak about reality, no “essences” needed.

        Nothing shows essences exist. So your claims that essences are okay just as presupposed baseless claims that need no support is rather silly.

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      • Note that I said “true enough”. The burden of proof lies on the person making a ‘positive claim’ for something – but denying essentialism (as you have done) is also a positive claim about reality – specifically, it’s a negation of a positive claim. If you’re simply saying that my conception of essentialism is false then you would need to show it, but denying essentialism wholesale requires argument. As stated earlier (and argued in comments) I believe that essentialism is trivially true, or at is at least obvious.

        If you’re going to push so strongly about the burden of proof though, then it’s not me that needs to show that you’re wrong about essentialism reducing to Plato’s ideals, it’s you that needs to make the case that it does, since you’ve just made a “positive claim”.

        I don’t know what you mean by “showing essence even exists” – I gave deductive, rational argumentation in these comments – there’s nothing baseless about that. If you want me to put it in a test tube then I’m afraid I can’t do that.

        I don’t think you understand my position properly, or Aristotelian-Thomistic moderate realism, but I’m also not even sure I understand your position. When you say “An actual thing is not some nonsense separate from its “essence”” – if you are claiming that something’s existence is identical to its essence, then I gave an argument against this in this post.
        So that I can understand you better, can you answer this question: “In what way, if any, are the ideas that words convey, related to the things they describe in extramental reality?” Maybe that will help clear the air

        “Ideas come from things. They are not magically floating around on their own.”
        – when did I say ideas magically float around on their own? You keep dogmatically making claims about a position you don’t seem to fully understand.

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      • If something is a “negation” it isn’t a positive claim. It’s that hard to figure out?
        You have nothing to argue about, since you can’t show that essences exist. You simple presuppose they do. If you make a claim “x is true” then it is your burden to support that claim. If I say “a dragon is in my garage”, then it is my burden to prove it is true. It is not your burden to prove it’s not there. Another example is that a muslim says “allah exists”. It is their burden to support that claim. No one has to support the default position that allah does not exist.

        Agan, your “obivious” has no thing to support it except for a baseless assertion. I have shown how essentialism reduces to Plato’s ideals. I’ve support it with evidence. It now your turn where you show I’m wrong. This is how debates work.

        Deduction and arguments about things that have no evidence for them are moot. Everthing you have claimed depends on many “ifs”, and you need to have evidence that those “ifs” are true. Yes, I know you can’t put it in a test tube or show anything that supports your presupposition.

        I do understand your positin, you need to show your god exists and you have no actual evidence for it. You have arguments that have premises that you cannot show are true, which makes the conclusions worthless. Yep, you gave argumetns against things being their essences and again that goes straight back to Plato’s idealism. You need to split them apart to have a god that fulfills what you need, and no matter what you need, that doesn’t make your argument true.

        To answer your question, I need to ask a few myself:

        what is “extramental reality”?

        How can a description of a thing exist without a “thing” to describe?

        You claim that essence is separate from the thing. So where are they? How are they separate?

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  2. I’m really getting tired of being honored, again and again, for the simple brute fact of continuing my existence.
    “He is Risen”: yes- that is precisely accurate, each day, and the day after. I wake up, get out of bed – and that is supposed to be some kind of miracle?

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